Recent Episodes
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125. Cassidy: doing less more slowly (and how to tolerate longing when you can't)
Cassidy McAuliffe is a photographer, filmmaker, storyteller, teacher, and artist. She's half of the Woodland Sisters ...
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124. Capri: there's no such thing as original ideas (and that's fine! you're fine)
Capri Aspe is a little bit of everything: ballerina, composer, contra caller, puppeteer, film editor, travelling perf...
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123. Rikka: Writing, ritual, and pREMATURE RUG REGRETS (Aug 2023)
This episode was recorded in August 2023. We last heard from Rikka in episode 103! She's a writer, sewist, and Asian ...
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122. Jess: becoming a mirror ball (expert) by way of a thousand dents (mistakes)
A walking around the house carrying baby episode.how many ways can you fuck up one pair of baby overalls?if I'm not m...
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121. Caitlin: (f/m)aking it, finding your voice, and tapping into that inner crow
Caitlin McIver ("mc-EE-ver") is a ceramicist based in Seattle, WA. About a year and a half ago she moved across the c...
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120. Jess: "Frivolous" purchases and where is the day gone
A walk around the house:What happens when you get the right equipment for the job? You avoid itLeaving projects until...
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119. Jess: the empowerment (and entrapment) of "No"
I had a baby! And we're getting back on the horse with an unedited walking episode. Content: I talk a bit about How I...
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118. Jess: 'Nostalgia' is up! + some recent creative biz lessons
A walking episode 🥾🐕 I chat about how 'Nostalgia' finally went, and some learnings from hosting creative events...
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117. Jackie: Peanut and the Perspective Shift
Jackie E. Davis is the artist behind Underpants and Overbites and our Rochester correspondant. She's been on the podc...
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116. Sarah Nelson: AI, the Arctic, and a year of art shows
Sarah Nelson is an environmentally focused illustrator who's currently making work about climate change (among other ...
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115. Jess: being bad at it and doing it anyway, "you can do it" energy, and Big Burnout
Just a little update.Bluegrass camp got cancelled :(I went to a jam though!I get interrupted by a kid on a dirt bike ...
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114. Jess: bras, books, and... bluegrass?
A walking episode: Jess (FINALLY) finishes a bra (that fits!), reads some books that spark inspiration, and signs up ...
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113. Cassidy (Part 2): I am willing.
Cassidy McAuliffe is a photographer, filmmaker, storyteller, teacher (!), and artist. She's half of the Woodlan...
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112. Cassidy (Part 1): lessons from the deep end, and depending less on shminstagram
Cassidy McAuliffe is a photographer, filmmaker, storyteller, teacher (!), and artist. She's half of the Woodlan...
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111. Jess: quilting empowerment + Nostalgia update
Another walking episode! This one is mostly about some recent quilting empowerment (thrifted "misfit" fabrics and tin...
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110. Jess: band night, bright blank canvases, bra(lette)s, and baby
A walking episode! Life and creativity update.I mention: Banksia bralette pattern: https://www.munaandbroad.com/...
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109. Adriana: overcoming writing fear through erotica
We talk with Adriana about overcoming the fear of writing through erotica, proving you can do the thing by doing the ...
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108. Jess: dance classes, video creativity, and sketchbook struggle
Hey! It's been a little longer than I would like, but I'm glad to be here. In this unedited walk in the woods, I talk...
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107. Mark: forbidden ephemeral creativity and the beauty of the easy first draft
Mark (@snapsbymap on Instagram) is a photographer, musician, wildlife educator, and writer (at work!). In this episod...
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106. Magic time travel diary feat. Eggatha
On dance studio beginnings, trades, and the answer to "how does anybody do anything".I mention:Partner dancing with n...
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105. Cassidy McAuliffe: Make it bad. Do it. Make it. I dare you.
Cassidy McAuliffe is a photographer, filmmaker, storyteller, teacher (!), watercolour painter and art/craft-mak...
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104. Gabi Kingsley: subtle growth, fried egg quilts, and making meaning after the fact
Gabi Kingsley is a dabbler in many fine things. You can see her found poetry on Instagram @thistlequiff, textile/quil...
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103. Rikka: What comes after a creative risk (and failure)?
What happens when you take a creative leap and totally miss? And there were witnesses and it's embarrassing and you m...
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102. Rikka: choosing the opposite of scarcity and finding out
We last heard from Rikka in episode 85! She's a writer, sewist, and Asian ball-jointed doll enthusiast. You can find ...
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101. Painting with a messy desk, gathering with purpose, and NOURISHMENT
A quick update on what's been up lately!In this episode I mention The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matter...
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100?! Confidence, community and finally taking a stand against crotchless pants
What's changed (for Jess) since the first episode of Art Horse?Gone up:confidence in identity and potentialthe types ...
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99. Maria Bowler: building a better relationship with your creativity
Maria Bowler is a writer and creative coach whose work explores our relationships with ourselves around creative prod...
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98. Sarah Nelson: Arctic epiphanies, the creativity chrysalis, and letting ideas simmer
This conversation is about Sarah's transformative trip to the Arctic, incubating your creative work, and what it mean...
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97. Your painting is a kite, the upside of comparison, and getting a project ball rolling
A post-summer update! On starting to feel like a Real Painter, making your own clothes hitting the spot as art supply...
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Order your copy of the Art Horse ZINE before August 12, 2022!
Made u a snack, it's the Art Horse Zine!!The zine is a collection of listener-submitted artwork, and the theme is Foo...
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Art Horse Summer Break + Zine Soon!
Art Horse is taking a summer break for July and August - I'll be back with new episodes in September!The zine will be...
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96. Kaho Yoshida: textures, tongues, and outsider tales
Kaho is a director and animator who is in love with with textures and stop motion. You can see her work on Instagram ...
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95. Jackie, Jess, and cold onion rings
This is a conversation about past-self compassion, why Stephen King doesn't have a tiktok (HE DOESN'T NEED ONE), and ...
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94. Amber Fossey (zeppelinmoon): imposter syndrome, radical compassion, and livin' that ball pond life
Amber is the artist and writer known as zeppelinmoon on Instagram. Sassy animals and poetry!! She's a former doctor f...
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93. Elizabeth Blanco Part 2: bra-asauruses, break-taking, and the illusion of character
Elizabeth Blanco is a storyteller, actor, and professional chameleon. Find her on Instagram @mzz_lizzie . This is par...
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92. Elizabeth Blanco: exploring Resistance, bringing tequila back, and waiting for your ego to leave itself at the door
Elizabeth Blanco is a storyteller, actor, and professional chameleon. Find her on Instagram @mzz_lizzieIn this episod...
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91. Just Jess: dance class doubts, art anger, garbage bag boobs, and a magic colour triangle?
This episode is just Jess! On a walk in the woods, featuring bug bites, angry crows, and updates on dance classes, ar...
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90. Fiona: falling thru a trapdoor to an artless basement, quitting mascara, and squeakin' around on that rusty old art bike
She's back babyeee! Well, for this episode anyway. Fiona serves you a big scoop o what she's been up to in her absenc...
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89. Jackie E. Davis: boat bossin', bad pizza, and harnessing the raw energy of the worst version of yourself
Jackie E. Davis makes a comic called Underpants and Overbites! https://www.instagram.com/underpantsandoverbites/.This...
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88. Gabi Kingsley: learning your limits, embracing creative constraints, and Ugly Quilt (on purpose!)
Gabi Kingsley is a dabbler in many fine things. You can see her found poetry on Instagram @thistlequiff, textile/quil...
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87. Jack Sjogren Part 2: You are your own compass
Jack is funny and he makes comics and music and whatever his heart says when he gets quiet and listens. You can find ...
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86. Jack Sjogren Part 1: If I'm not letting myself be seen... what is there?
Jack is funny and he makes comics and music and whatever his heart says when he gets quiet and listens. You can find ...
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85. Rikka: Do I have to reinvent myself completely if I want to try again?
This is an episode about big changes, starting over, and doing what lights you up. There's lots of laughs, you'll lov...
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Announcements: Upcoming zine, new PO Box, and Thursdays!
Upcoming Zine!The themes are food/drink AND mythical creatures!Deadline April 30Submit online (but not yet)If you've ...
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84. Emily Schanowski: Sick of art on Hard Mode? Do what’s fun, pick favourites, and quit drawing on used napkins
The literal one and only Emily Schanowski (@emthejackalope) is an ink and watercolour artist in Wasau, WI. She makes ...
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83. Andrea Holmes Part 2: Collabs, creativity as choices, and concrete smears on your 100 foot mural
Andrea is a Muralist, Fairy Art Mother, and Bird Lady in McKinney, Texas. You can find her on Instagram @aholmesartst...
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82. Andrea Holmes Part 1: How to Grow as an Artist
Andrea is a Muralist, Fairy Art Mother, and Bird Lady in McKinney, Texas. You can find her on Instagram @aholmesartst...
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81. MVPs, tendony knees, and please can I send this painting back I don't like it
Another chill episode with Greg. How do you know which is the next right thing? And what do you do when your worst ar...
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80. Erin: cave art, community, and creative recovery via childhood crafts
Erin is a writer, crafter, zinester, button-maker, decorator, and creativity recoverer. You can find her on Instagram...
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79. Kat: art block and refilling the well by diving for treasure with your dog
Kat is a sketchbook-filling digital artist and marine biologist/science communicator/part time largemouth bass in Ont...
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78. GREG: Floor maker, draw-er, ramp builder, NO-sayer, artist?
Greg is a software developer based in our house. Find him on the internet on his website at https://schier.co/.Are al...
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77. Jackie E. Davis Part 2: Storytelling, (un)supported studies, and the surprising spontaneity in structure and stability
Send me your voice!! I want to hear what you're working on. Ask me anything. Send a 30 second to 2 minute recording t...
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76. Jackie E. Davis Part 1: Creative routines, hitting the EJECT button, and entering public spaces to an utter lack of applause
Don't let the weather determine whether you do the work or notThere’s Trying and then there’s Fantasizing and Using T...
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75. Sarah Nelson Part 2: Curiosity, community, and a climate-conserving cruise
If it doesn’t make money is it worth doing? (Spoiler: YES)Ketchup: scheduling in daily creative time and sticking to ...
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74. Sarah Nelson Part 1: growth, gatekeepers, and getting into (and out of) your own way
What do you do when it turns out you’re not who you thought you would be your whole life?You NEED nurturing community...
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Honey gas and quilting class: what's been up and what's next
Fiona takes a step back to focus on her life and her business(es!) and sneakin' in naps, while Jess scrambles to fill...
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Preorder the Inner World ZINE by January 14th!
Hey!! Just popping in to let you know the INNER WORLD Zine is available for preorder!!✨ https://arthorsepod.com/...
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We're taking a break!
Hiatus time! We’re taking a break from weekly episodes. In the meantime, you can find us in the Art Horse community d...
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73. Pretty pity parties and making ugly art on purpose
It’s always okay to throw yourself a pity party with a nice cakeSometimes it helps to google basic for-dummies shit -...
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72. If not beautiful, interesting: batch painting, bee balls, and specific artistic questions
Sometimes you aim for the moon and you land among the stars..ky and hutch DVDsSome things you can jump into and figur...
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71. You're listening to Lester's art podcast, featuring our good friend Underpants
Jackie E. Davis makes a diary comic called Underpants and Overbites and you can find her here: https://www.instagram....
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70. Markets, monkey paws, and making sacrifices
You don’t have to sell your paintings in order to call yourself a painter!Is everyone out to trick you? (yes, if you’...
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69. How to pose your peaches and paint from within
What to do if you’ve fallen into the opposite of flow (drag?!!)!? Maybe just...come back to ur project later!What if ...
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68. Buckle up for a big one: Hoof hands, idol oranges, cardboard swords, and WOW lots more
Don’t sleep on creativity tricks u learned in kindygartenTake some time to listen to your demons so u can recognize t...
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67. Mornings, big dreams, and neon beige: How do you do what matters n leave what doesn’t?
Saying ‘No’ can drastically improve your life - just ask Fiona!A little bit of discouragement can help you look at yo...
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66. Seriously sustainable schemes, sewing skivvies, and sculpting sitatungas
If you could choose, what would you spend most of your time doing?You’re Not Responsible For Other People’s Feelings ...
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65. Triple sorrows and triple Ds: finding support in unexpected places
The trouble with gettin all the equipment is then u have no excuse but to do the doMaybe we like prompts because it f...
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64. Berry noses, intuitive painting, and small problems that keep us small
What if never solving your small problems (including “why me??”) protects you from moving on to more important/scarie...
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63. Improv painting, patchwork, and Mr-Potato-Head-ing your vision into a reality
What do you do when you like flying by the seat of your pants but you don’t like making expensive mistakes?Are new id...
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62. Fashion for pleasure, profit, and pretending like you’re not as hot as you actually are
How to worry about being too sexy and not sexy enough at the SAME TIMENice isn’t the most important thing you can be&...
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61. Frameworks (FINALLY): outlines, armatures, and painting strategies
Armatures: save time and clay by making a wire n tinfoil skeleton for ur figurines (yes they are figurines haha)Maybe...
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60. Getting back on the wobbly writing bike and sewing a pair of see-through shorts
What to do when you’re afraid of this thing you want to love?Vibe check: are you artificially inflating the stakes? M...
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59. Big boot goofin and a constellation of donkeys
How to get unstuck? Maybe paint-alongs can hold ur hand n take u places u wouldn’t go by urselfSometimes “cheating” c...
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58. Abstraction, schmabstraction: How to get from reality to “art”
We are fans of puttering and putting fun things on yr to-do listHow do u paint a feeling (srsly how)?If you like swim...
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57. Jess juggles judgement while Fiona whips up a nip napkin
With 3 hours and a shitty t-shirt, you too can make a shitty bra!A “wink” is a way to peek at the complexity of the t...
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56. What is the point of me, how to contain one’s boobs, and other existential questions
Huge, overwhelming tasks are actually a bunch of baby steps all smooshed togetherHow do you make friends as an adult?...
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55. Art for hotels, from movies, and for sale
What the actual fuck colour is puddles?What if I finish this project and nobody likes it? Wouldn’t it be better if I ...
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54. How to make choices, gouache your own face, and gamble your self esteem away
All choices are good --- they inform future choices and keep you moving forwardShit-talking yourself is NOT the sourc...
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53. Pasturniums, the Hokey Pokey, and other idiosyncrasies
Get three of everything cause dirt feels good on your handsUnderstanding the meaning of sweater collar - sometimes in...
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52. muah* A joyful note, family matters, and (over)functioning for your own self *muah*
Wait what if I take the energy I spend on nurturing others and point it at myself? ? ?Harriet says problems with yr n...
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51. Freedom from planning and not-so-free pianos
✨ Actually, you’re a boss ass bitch so everyone can just shut up (what happens if you write a letter to the editor in...
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50. No-one can teach you to be a wizard (so quit looking over your shoulder for experts) with Jackie E. Davis of Underpants and Overbites
Clarity of inner voice (and the confidence that comes with it) comes with time and experienceKnowing u have a choice ...
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49. Am I even in this storyline? Characters and canaries in the Sad Sack Cafe
Don’t beat yourself up about not doing art if you’re in a depresso spiral ! that’s the opposite of the pointDoing thi...
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The first ever Art Horse Zine is HERE!!
Have you ever been curious who is listening along with you?WELLThe first ever Art Horse Zine is READY!! You can get y...
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48. Poor pours, knotted knits, and buried by boundless beads
Your learning projects don’t have to be perfect. They don’t even have to be nice. In fact, they can be bum-uglyTrying...
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47. Satisfying stitches, crusty spheres, and building a life full of options
Yr things aren't the boss of u (they're OPTIONS not OBLIGATIONS)You are the expert on what you like (and nobody else!...
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46. “The world is your googly-eyed oyster”: dragon feet, talking ovens, and DIY art kits with Elissa Baltzer
Squeeze art into the cracks by 1. Packing yourself a kit of art supplies and inspiration and 2. prepping your sketchb...
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45. Freestyle knitting & covering yr own damn bases
If you wouldn’t buy it at full price don’t buy it on sale - GabrielaThere will be other trombonesThere are people who...
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44. Playing (the piano) by your own rules, and other epiphanies
Sometimes it turns out you don’t actually like your hobbies --- and it’s ok to stop doin em!!The best time to upgrade...
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We're making an Art Horse Zine - send us your art by March 15th!
We’re putting together a digital zine to celebrate our collective stepping-out-of-comfort-zone-edness, our unfinished...
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43. Festive but small: raw eggs, hot pink, and guess what Fiona finished!!!
YOU are so important that it doesn’t matter if you do important/impressive thingsTaking care of yourself (SLEEP) can ...
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42. Intuitive thrifting and the burden of a free piano
The Juicy BitsThe fun is over if you do it all at onceEarrings DO deliver you a bigger lifeDoing things with ur body ...
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41. Deadline extensions, getting rid of art (how?), and staring into the ideabyss
The Juice:More time to work on a commission can sometimes just mean more time to worry about it It’s ok to move ...
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40. Infinite scroll and insatiable stashing
The Juice:It’s okay and makes sense to use ur living space to reflect ur identity back to urself and othersIt’s okay ...
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39. Ten fingers, ten toes
In the middle of a move, Fiona deals with the irritation of not having her crafting space set up (“where’s mY SHIT?!”...
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38. Standup, lie down: comedy and mental health with Jane Postlethwaite
Early-morning comedy workshop host Jane joins Fiona and Jess for a serious chat about comedy, creativity, and mental ...
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37. That’s not like any Jerry I’ve ever seen: compassion, comedy, and capturing likeness
Fiona paints herself as a child and experiences a migraine attack, both of which turn into opportunities to let go of...
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36. Arting after work, arting as work, and trusting your (OWN) guts
Fiona experiences what it’s like to be a fully-employed human with only evenings and weekends to be creative, but fin...
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35. Go big or go home: Emily Powell on being bold, resourceful, and trusting your guts
Painter Emily Powell chats with Fiona and Jess about how she elbowed her way into a painting career. She encourages F...
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34. Planning for 2021: dreams, schemes and real i fart parties
Fiona and Jess look forward to the creative dreams and schemes of 2021. Jess resolves to paint BIG and start budgetin...
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33. Year in review: colour, creative growth, and sticking your toes in pie
Jess and Fiona take stock of this past year’s successes, failures, baby steps, and big creative shifts.Fiona, a chron...
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32. Me-ness envy and finding out your creative voice was inside you the whole time
Fiona turns to science for her colour palette with breathtaking results, and is surprised to find Julia Cameron’s wis...
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31. Jess weaves a gorgeous rug for ants and Fiona accidentally paints a rabbit mugshot
Jess finds her weaving flow with a rug for ants, and Fiona accidentally goes slaughterhouse when she means to go whim...
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30. Creating to heal and grow: the power of keeping it private
Fiona breaks through last week’s creative block and expresses some heavy emotions in the form of PRIVATE, mom, emo-as...
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29. Comparison is the thief of joy: when an experienced, highly educated professional is better than you
Fiona hones her technical skills by struggling through a big video project, experiences severe blog-writer’s-block, a...
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28. Everyone else is just as dumb as me is, terrible sketches, and recovery bagels
Jess makes some “terrible” sketches and knits her needle down to a stump. Fiona finds some chewy healing and growth i...
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27. Collage, poetry, and technical difficulties: let it be what it gonna be
Fiona expresses some COVID anxiety with her first ever collage and writes an accidental poem about pain and depressio...
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26. Fiona paints through the pain and Jess knits a sexy hat
Jess worries about a Big Purchase (an online course for illustrators!?) and knits up a storm. Fiona battens down the ...
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25. The extravagance of furniture, fancy pencils, and chronic illness
Jess single-handedly causes the apocalypse, cancels Christmas, and is taunted by $500 pencil crayons – however, she s...
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24. Day ruined: performance anxiety and recovering from accomplishments
Jess lives out the arrival fallacy when she tries to celebrate and unexpectedly experiences depression. Fiona turns u...
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23. Laughs and learns: chasing comedy and taking in teaching
Fiona paints in full-on flow, dissects some big laughs, and takes a baby step towards something she really cares abou...
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22. Jess gRAcEfUlLy AcCePtS fEeDbAcK and Fiona revisits her comedy dreams
Fiona endures a week without yellow paint and asks the internet how to make jokes. Jess’s ego takes a hit when a thou...
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21. The funny thing about comfort zones is they keep expanding
Fiona manages to squeeze a little bit of painting and Artist’s Waying into a big transition week, while Jess takes a ...
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20. True tales of teen ‘tude: legitimizing memories by writing the past
Jess reflects on a moment of self-deprecation from last week, and transforms some seemingly frivolous childhood memor...
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19. Trying to cram writing into the cracks of a soul-sucking career feat. Sarah
Fiona and Jess chat with Sarah about work, life, work life, and life work. This conversation leaves us with more ques...
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18. Fiona needs help putting paint on a canvas while Jess buys a house
Fiona discovers a new way to punctuate the passage of pandemic days through her daily diary practice and enlists Jess...
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Wanna draw with us tomorrow (September 10th)?
On Thursday, September 10th, 9PM EST we're gonna have a zoom call and do a little drawing + writing exercise together...
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17. Zigzaggy steps in the right direction: on starting and course correcting towards your goal
Fiona wards off discouragement when her bonsai project turns out to be more complicated than expected, tackles her pe...
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16. Self-sabotage, memory-making, and cry-sketching thru the fog of depression
Jess recognizes some patterns of low self-worth, thrills herself with a daily diary, and paints some everyday beauty ...
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15. When dreams are big but money is small: abundance in unexpected places
Jess makes art on the road in imperfect conditions and Fiona draws spontaneously --- the Artist’s Way is working! Bot...
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14. Art? at the art gallery feat. heartbreak colouring therapy
Fiona finds comfort in colouring books this week as she reels from a one-two punch that will change the course of her...
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13. Art school, art life, and art boundaries with Underpants and Overbites
Fiona and Jess chat with their friend Jackie about just doing the thing you love with a shrug and a smile. You’ll lov...
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12. Riding the wave of a good idea and the embarrassment of asking
Jess’s zest for a creative project goes down the toilet. Fiona delivers a screed on her feelings about Amanda Palmer’...
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11. Guest books & love letters: inhibition and inspiration from the past
Delving into the past brings frustration for Jess and inspiration for Fiona. Jess tackles a tiny fiber art project an...
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10. Creativity without solitude, or: baking macarons in someone else's kitchen
Fiona beads. A lot. Like, a LOT. Jess frantically bails out the sinking ship that is an ambitious pastry project. Bot...
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9. Fiona speed paints with her art crush and Jess normal paints by herself
Fiona sells the craft supplies that are guilt tripping her and takes a painting workshop with her Instagram art crush...
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8. Jess and Fiona: it's fine. Narrator: it was not fine.
Fiona copies a piece of modern art and Jess experiences life without Birdstrips. Both share some time tested strategi...
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7. Hashtag over it: creating amidst chaos and telling (true?) stories
Fiona feels overwhelmed by creative possibility and Jess falls into the gap between the stories she wants to tell and...
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6. Surprise! You're naked in a group chat!
Fiona’s first self-portrait in years suffers some proportion problems, but she recognizes an important connection bet...
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5. Started from the bottom now we’re starting back at a different bottom
Fiona experiences the growing pains that come with trying to orient her life in a new direction; this involves a fren...
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4. Nudity, attention, and other things we want
This week, Fiona realizes the value of “good enough” while doing her makeup, and digs into her past to try to discove...
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3. Criticism, or: that which cannot be unstomped
This week, Fiona spends a day without the internet to trick herself into doing art (and do, she does). r/PrisonHooch ...
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2. Moving on vs. doing over
This week, Fiona becomes a clay jewelry guru and goes down a slippery spending slope. Jess finally puts to rest some ...
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1. There is no try, there is only do
Hi. We're Fiona and Jess, two regular every-day people in pursuit of a more creative life. This episode gives you a b...
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